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Oct 21 07 4:59 PM

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Isn't it time we stopped using this phrase to describe those on the board who are representatives of the Trust?
They are not "fan" representatives as there is no "fan representation" per se on the board of the Football Club. Both are members of the a business organisation called the Supporters Trust, which as we know does not represent even a majority of the fans of Lincoln City Football Club. Both members also have no remit whatsoever to serve those people who have not joined or are lapsed members of the Trust.
Is it these sort of things that the Trust will not tell you. What have they got to hide?
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kweelo

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Oct 21 07 5:20 PM

Who cares!? Do you have some form of hidden agenda? Now I'm not saying that everything the trust does is good, however, I believe they have the best interest of the club at heart and without them 5 years ago we would have been in some serious trouble! Granted, by defintion they aren't truely representative because the vast majority (myself included) aren't menbers of the trust but they are there to benefit my club, not hinder it.

If you aren't happy with what they are doing, then stand for election yourself or promote the trust so they are reprensentative of the vast majority of the fanbase.

Personally, I would prefer to debate how we can get the stay away / casual supporters back at the Bank because we need them to take this club forward and start climbing the league. Yesterday's performance hopefully is an idicator of what is to come, it's a start but unfortunately it's chicken and egg - success breeds success and brings the fans in.

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Oct 21 07 5:28 PM

kweelo wrote:
Granted, by defintion they aren't truely representative because the vast majority (myself included) aren't menbers of the trust but they are there to benefit my club, not hinder it.


That's your choice kweelo and is respected - but you can hardly blame the Supporter Directors for this!!

The original post seems to have been ranted out and I'm really struggling to see the point the poster is trying to make - apart from implying the Trust have something to hide.

Something just nags me that he/she may not be a supporter of the Trust but if he is seeking to persuade people that they should join him in his crusade against them I'm not sure this kind of incoherent rant is the best way about it.

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Oct 21 07 5:40 PM

and is the crusade in aid of a plc if this is so then they are doing harm to this club they have allready coasrt us a lot of money in shares and fighting the plc the sooner they go away and let the club get on with what they are here for running a football club the better.

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Oct 21 07 5:41 PM

Lets just let this thread sink to the bottom of the page and then into obscurity of page 2 by just not responding further.

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Jerry Maguire

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Oct 21 07 5:42 PM

Re: "Supporter" Directors

Honestimp wrote:
Isn't it time we stopped using this phrase to describe those on the board who are representatives of the Trust?
They are not "fan" representatives as there is no "fan representation" per se on the board of the Football Club. Both are members of the a business organisation called the Supporters Trust, which as we know does not represent even a majority of the fans of Lincoln City Football Club. Both members also have no remit whatsoever to serve those people who have not joined or are lapsed members of the Trust.
Is it these sort of things that the Trust will not tell you. What have they got to hide?


What a strange post.

The Supporters Trust is a fans organisation, it is represented on the board of the club, why not call those representatives supporter directors?

Not every fan is a member of the Trust (all fans have the right to join however) but I am not aware that either supporter director has ever refused to discuss club matters with any fan who has approached them, trust member or not.

The Trust is a business organisation now is it? That's very strange, I'm not sure I recognise that description and you don't provide any basis for the claim.

Are you quite alright Honest? You seem to have anger management issues. I hope that you are finding ranting on this board useful therapy and that you get well soon.

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kweelo

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Oct 21 07 5:48 PM

BJM wrote

That's your choice kweelo and is respected - but you can hardly blame the Supporter Directors for this!!


Jack, trust me, I don't! In fact if you read back thru my post I think by in large they do a good job and I am complimentary of them. Am worried by honestimps post and what he/she is trying to infer, liked I said to him think they're are bigger things to be worried about

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Oct 21 07 5:50 PM

Looks to me that HonestImp has got quite a chip on his shoulder

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Oct 21 07 6:39 PM

I noticed that before the game on Saturday Dave Beck went round the tables in the Trust Suite talking to fans. I'm sure he didnt ask to see their Trust membership cards before he spoke to them!!! He certainly didnt on our table.

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Oct 21 07 6:42 PM

We are... wrote:
I noticed that before the game on Saturday Dave Beck went round the tables in the Trust Suite talking to fans. I'm sure he didnt ask to see their Trust membership cards before he spoke to them!!! He certainly didnt on our table.


He did not ask to see mine when I spoke to him after the match, seemed very open and honest in his replies to questions.

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Oct 21 07 7:01 PM

Honest, still waiting for a reply to the post on 17th October?

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So Honest, are you the voice of the fans? Who does represent the voice of the fans, you?

Interesting!

The Trust is democratic - get yourself elected and change things.....or will the electorate not like your message? Don't sit on the outside criticising, get involved on the inside and change things. DEMOCRACY works, put yourself up for election and take your chances!

I suggest you put yourself up for election to the the Supporters Trust Board at the next election, or your representative. I doubt if you will? BUT I would welcome it, that is what it is all about!

Interesting comment - sycophantic, servile attitude - if that's how you feel change it Mr HonestImp - get involved.

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Oct 21 07 7:21 PM

mick1632 wrote:
and is the crusade in aid of a plc if this is so then they are doing harm to this club they have allready coasrt us a lot of money in shares and fighting the plc the sooner they go away and let the club get on with what they are here for running a football club the better.

mick1632


To be fair giving a club employee a three year contract that was not deserved then axing them a few months later is also costing the club money, as well. Might be only x months worth, but it's still costing "us".

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Oct 21 07 7:23 PM

Re: "Supporter" Directors

Jerry Maguire wrote:
Honestimp wrote:
Isn't it time we stopped using this phrase to describe those on the board who are representatives of the Trust?
They are not "fan" representatives as there is no "fan representation" per se on the board of the Football Club. Both are members of the a business organisation called the Supporters Trust, which as we know does not represent even a majority of the fans of Lincoln City Football Club. Both members also have no remit whatsoever to serve those people who have not joined or are lapsed members of the Trust.
Is it these sort of things that the Trust will not tell you. What have they got to hide?


What a strange post.

The Supporters Trust is a fans organisation, it is represented on the board of the club, why not call those representatives supporter directors?

Not every fan is a member of the Trust (all fans have the right to join however) but I am not aware that either supporter director has ever refused to discuss club matters with any fan who has approached them, trust member or not.

The Trust is a business organisation now is it? That's very strange, I'm not sure I recognise that description and you don't provide any basis for the claim.

Are you quite alright Honest? You seem to have anger management issues. I hope that you are finding ranting on this board useful therapy and that you get well soon.


I get where Honestimp is coming from here and by the strict definition of words he/she is right. Jean Foster and David Beck are Trust Representatives on the board, in the same way that Stuart Tindall is the Lindum rep on the board. Tindall doesn't represent Simons Construction, for example, and I can see that JF and DB don't (can't?) represent those who don't pay their subs to the Trust.

I think people need to stop defending the Trust when questions are asked though, usually the Trust can defend themselves fairly adequately.

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ConfianceImp

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Oct 21 07 7:31 PM

impfan wrote:
We are... wrote:
I noticed that before the game on Saturday Dave Beck went round the tables in the Trust Suite talking to fans. I'm sure he didnt ask to see their Trust membership cards before he spoke to them!!! He certainly didnt on our table.


He did not ask to see mine when I spoke to him after the match, seemed very open and honest in his replies to questions.


Good to hear Impfan, he does a lot of work in the background which people don't hear about.

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AndyLCFC

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Oct 21 07 7:49 PM

Re: "Supporter" Directors

quote]I get where Honestimp is coming from here and by the strict definition of words he/she is right. Jean Foster and David Beck are Trust Representatives on the board, in the same way that Stuart Tindall is the Lindum rep on the board. Tindall doesn't represent Simons Construction, for example, and I can see that JF and DB don't (can't?) represent those who don't pay their subs to the Trust.

I think people need to stop defending the Trust when questions are asked though, usually the Trust can defend themselves fairly adequately.[/quote]

It works both ways..If people didn`t keep attacking the Trust to suit their own agenda`s then there wouldn`t be a need to defend the Trust.

The views expressed in this message are personal views and in no way reflect the views of Lincoln City Supporters Trust

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Dean

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Oct 21 07 7:57 PM

Re: "Supporter" Directors

AndyLCFC wrote:
quote]I get where Honestimp is coming from here and by the strict definition of words he/she is right. Jean Foster and David Beck are Trust Representatives on the board, in the same way that Stuart Tindall is the Lindum rep on the board. Tindall doesn't represent Simons Construction, for example, and I can see that JF and DB don't (can't?) represent those who don't pay their subs to the Trust.

I think people need to stop defending the Trust when questions are asked though, usually the Trust can defend themselves fairly adequately.


It works both ways..If people didn`t keep attacking the Trust to suit their own agenda`s then there wouldn`t be a need to defend the Trust.[/quote]


I am not a Trust member, but have never had a question not answered face to face. It may not have always been the answer I was expecting. The Trust are not posting from a position of anonimity on a message board, at least I know who I am talking to when it is at the club. Would you care to tell us who you are honestimp, so we can ask you relevant questions, and to decide for ourselves if you have an agenda?

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ConfianceImp

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Oct 21 07 8:03 PM

redclanger wrote:
Lets just let this thread sink to the bottom of the page and then into obscurity of page 2 by just not responding further.


I wish it was that easy redclanger!

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binney

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Oct 21 07 8:07 PM

Honestimp does seem to have an agenda similiar to mr freelander, and other than wanting to have a go at the trust directors and the club board, it makes no sense what they post. For me the trust directors, like other trust people seem to put a look of time in, and do a good job. the role they play in the stability of the club is very important, and I could not understand why that ex director roe wanted to stop the trust buying more shares in the club.

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Oct 21 07 8:16 PM

"why that ex director Roe"

Without the endeavours and commitment of Keith Roe and Rob Bradley (in no particular order), there would be no Lincoln City Football Club. I wish people would remember that.

And I put my name to that statement.

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