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The Greatest Dancer

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Mar 23 09 8:59 AM

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Don't blame Jacko for yesterday. So many simple chances were missed.
We should heve been 3-1 up at half time, an air kick by O'Connor and Danny's one-on one should have made the net bulge. We were that much better than them it was ridiculous.

Second half was closer as far as possession was concerned. Beevers could not cope with their winger and generally backed off and backed off. He had a head injury and should have gone off. Wright and patulea missed chances in front of goal and Danny hit the ball at the keeper when it was harder not to score.

To win games you have to take your easier chances; we didn't, they did, end of.


A fair assessment. It was actually a very exciting game for the neutrals (not that there would have been anyone mad enough to go to an end of season game between two below average division 4 teams unless they were supporters of those teams!). I think the key moment was Beevers head injury. After that he seemed to forget how to tackle or who he was marking and gave Adomah far too much space. If Dany had had his shooting boots on that we would have had the game won by half time.

By the way, I thought Dany was the best player I have seen in this division this season but Adomah would run him very close. What a good player he looks.

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Mar 23 09 9:06 AM

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We may be a bit dodgy when the crowds keep dropping, of course we could always call on the youth players to bolster the squad, oh no hang on, Jacko peed most of them off as well!


Is Hone peed off? Is Lenny? Is Clarke? Is King really? Just because Facebook Boy is having difficulty coming to terms with the fact that he is not the new Paul Scholes you think that Jacko is a youth hater! I don't think that there is a shred of evidence to back up your claim. I can't be bothered to work it out but I would say that the total number of appearances by players Under 21 for The Imps this year must be easily the highest since the days of Carbon, Huckerby and Dixon.

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Mar 23 09 10:42 AM

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Yes well, that all makes up for the fact were paying him a fair wedge for no improvement. Don't think Schofield's accomadations cost would of been that much on Doddy Park either.

I just don't get the kerfuffle with the Jacko accommodation. Steff mentioned elsewhere that his hotel bill is less than the cost of a relocation package. Additionally, Jacko's Yorkshire base probably makes it easier for him to go out and watch games in the evening with a shorter drive home. I'm guess it's also not a unique occurrence: Keith Alexander still lives in Dunholme for example. I'm guessing Schoey probably had some accommodation when he worked at Walsall and his expenses at Cheltenham probably have something thrown in: he won't be commuting.

If you want top quality staff you have to be prepared to be flexible in the package you offer them. Lincoln does not have easy access to the motorway network so that's always going to be a negative both for recruiting players but especially manager's who I'd quite like to go and watch opponents and scout for players.

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Mar 23 09 12:34 PM

TGD I'll be honest with you and say that I list you as a board sycophant, keep telling yourself that everyones doing great manager/board wise if it makes you feel better but for me I do not agree, Jacko has promised the earth and delivered booger all, the board had the opportunity to go forward, improve the team and go for it in a poor league and have not taken it. At the start of the season Jacko said he would have a small squad and give the youth a chance (once we had apparently won the league by xmas) instead he has brought in his favourites and farmed out the youths, only Lenny has played regular possibly too long, Hone has been injured which is no fault of Jacko, Clarke has played sporadically due to this 4-3-3 formation which game after game hasn't worked, Petulia who was virtually free has been given the cold shoulder after starting well, Pembleton and King have had little chances. He has until recently persisted with the lazy (and probably overpaid) Oakes, Gall was clueless, Sinclair has had 2 good games(also probably overpaid) , Elding has been poor and to boot lost his head (are we still paying him?), Brown has done well, Burch can do half the job well, Kovacs has been inconsistent but mainly poor, Horsefield has been ok. I know he could not of kept MacDonald but things have gone downhill since hes gone. What Jacko has been involved in has not worked, I'm pointing out for what he must be earning we should be up there and one step ahead of the likes of Morecambe who have not got the same budget. KA seemed to get players who would work hard for the team and fight for every ball, Jacko has got players who can 'peel a carrot with there left foot' but not put a tackle in. As for the board I feel they've got to reaccess the current financial situation and see how they can get back the disallusioned fans and retain the season ticket holders or we'll be joining the likes of Morecambe, Barnet and Accrington Stanley in the wages stakes which won't suit any of these big time charlies at all.

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Mar 23 09 12:36 PM

EddieDillsworth wrote:
James wrote:
Yes well, that all makes up for the fact were paying him a fair wedge for no improvement. Don't think Schofield's accomadations cost would of been that much on Doddy Park either.

I just don't get the kerfuffle with the Jacko accommodation. Steff mentioned elsewhere that his hotel bill is less than the cost of a relocation package. Additionally, Jacko's Yorkshire base probably makes it easier for him to go out and watch games in the evening with a shorter drive home. I'm guess it's also not a unique occurrence: Keith Alexander still lives in Dunholme for example. I'm guessing Schoey probably had some accommodation when he worked at Walsall and his expenses at Cheltenham probably have something thrown in: he won't be commuting.

If you want top quality staff you have to be prepared to be flexible in the package you offer them. Lincoln does not have easy access to the motorway network so that's always going to be a negative both for recruiting players but especially manager's who I'd quite like to go and watch opponents and scout for players.


If Jacko is top quality how come the team is mediocre mid-table? I bet he had a decent wage budget compared to the rest of the league.

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Mar 23 09 12:42 PM

James wrote:
EddieDillsworth wrote:
James wrote:
Yes well, that all makes up for the fact were paying him a fair wedge for no improvement. Don't think Schofield's accomadations cost would of been that much on Doddy Park either.

I just don't get the kerfuffle with the Jacko accommodation. Steff mentioned elsewhere that his hotel bill is less than the cost of a relocation package. Additionally, Jacko's Yorkshire base probably makes it easier for him to go out and watch games in the evening with a shorter drive home. I'm guess it's also not a unique occurrence: Keith Alexander still lives in Dunholme for example. I'm guessing Schoey probably had some accommodation when he worked at Walsall and his expenses at Cheltenham probably have something thrown in: he won't be commuting.

If you want top quality staff you have to be prepared to be flexible in the package you offer them. Lincoln does not have easy access to the motorway network so that's always going to be a negative both for recruiting players but especially manager's who I'd quite like to go and watch opponents and scout for players.


If Jacko is top quality how come the team is mediocre mid-table? I bet he had a decent wage budget compared to the rest of the league.


... and yet you claim

the board had the opportunity to go forward, improve the team and go for it in a poor league and have not taken it.


I think the board is taking some harsh criticism here. Looking at the squad albeit on paper, I find it hard to agree with the people who seem to think that they've not backed Jackson this season.

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Mar 23 09 1:26 PM

I agree. As a fully-fledged Board bottom-licker, I have to agree with PG. He has been backed but has failed to deliver. It has been a massive disappointment. You can't say the Board should have taken the opportunity to move forward and in the next breath come out with Jackson has a decent budget.

What, exactly, can the Board do? They have backed him. It hasn't worked. The lesson is money doesn't neccesarily buy your way out of this league. Ask our resident Darlington fan.

One thing that frigs me off is the name calling - we're all Lincoln fans.

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Mar 23 09 1:46 PM

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TGD I'll be honest with you and say that I list you as a board sycophant, keep telling yourself that everyones doing great manager/board wise if it makes you feel better but for me I do not agree.


I'm intrigued that you have a list!

Do you ever take the opportunity to actually read what I say or do you just assume that you know what I think? I'll say it again in case you haven't heard it before.

I will support the current Board until we have anything that I am convinced is better. I think that, on the whole, they have done a good job and I trust them not to shaft the fans or bankrupt the club (which in my experience is very important) but they are far from perfect and they make mistakes. Hopefully, they learn from those mistakes - thats just about all we can ask for, in my opinion.

The facts are that the Board brought in a manager that the vast majority of us thought was the best on offer at the time. They backed him with a decent salary package and then, in the summer, with a good playing budget. They have also worked hard to provide excellent off field facilities and support.

None of us can now argue with a straight face that Jacko has delivered the progress that this investment should have and the Board, clearly, have a choice. Back the manager that they have invested in, put this season down to a learning experience and give him more time to get it right. Or they can sack him, see who is available and start again. Personally, I think Jacko's record elsewhere, his relative success last season and the belief that he will come good would mean that I'd like the Board to back him.

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Mar 23 09 2:08 PM

the supporters,board and the players have all been takien i by Jacko that includes me,that is why i am now anti jacko,and can only see one way and that is goodby jacko

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Mar 23 09 2:31 PM

Taken in by what, exactly? I thought he was talking gonads in the summer. It was done for a reason though. The season has been one big stinking failure. We know.

So do scarp it all and start again from scratch? And then again in a year's time when we're still in this position. The position, by the way, is very similar to the attendances we attract - middle table.

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Mar 23 09 2:40 PM

So you're now anti-Jacko because you're naive?

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Mar 23 09 2:55 PM

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BOBw you saying you was not taken in by JACKO,good for you,what is the number that is like you


Taken in? I was impressed with signings and positivity, but I think it's crazy to expect instant success following last seaon. Naturally i'm disappointed that certain signings (particularly Oakes) haven't proved themselves but i'm not going to bawl for Jacko's dismissal just yet.

Give it another season

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Mar 23 09 4:20 PM

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God help us then becouse jACKO WILL NOT HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW


Insightful comment as ever. Care to expand? Without shouting to get your point across.

Really, you don't need to shout. I think we know by now.

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Mar 23 09 4:36 PM

What's he saying that Jacko doesn't know how to bring success to a club?

For the record, Jackson's record ...

1st spell at Huddersfield - He joined them when they were 24th in today's equivalent of The Championship, he led them to 16th.

In his second season, they topped The Championship before falling off in the second half of the season and finished 10th. They also reached the 5th round of the FA Cup though Jackson was sacked at the end of the season.

2nd spell at Huddersfield - Re-joined them at the start of the '03 season when they only had 8 players. Finished 4th (dropped into the playoffs on the last day of the season) and they were promoted through the play-offs.

The next two seasons they finished 9th and then 4th (losing to Barnsley in the play-offs).

They were 15th when he got the boot the following season.

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Mar 23 09 4:52 PM

Ah, but Jacko's only success has been with a top coach alongside him: Terry Yorath and Neil McDonald.

We have Iffy who everyone knows is rubbish (well, apart from Jacko who knows nothing, and couldn't spot a decent coach if he saw one and has been brainwashed by Iffy).

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Mar 23 09 4:58 PM

I've always wondered why Jackson had 4 years without a job between his 2 spells at Huddersfield. His record there was good, so why did no-one take him on?

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Give this man two years and a damn testimonial!!!!

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Mar 23 09 5:00 PM

And he did all that at Huddersfield whilst simultaneously peeing off all the youngsters on their books. He just played his mates who are all knackered old lags and he totally undermined their entire youth system in a deliberate and calculated way.

Every season he said they would be in Europe and he never achieved that the gobby git. And, although Neil MacDonald wasn't at Huddersfield, Jacko used to ring him up to pick the side and bring him in with a Terry Yorath wig on each day to coach everybody and bring unequivocal joy, happiness and nirvana to all the players, backroom staff, fans and directors of the club.

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Mar 23 09 5:16 PM

GazBlades wrote:
I've always wondered why Jackson had 4 years without a job between his 2 spells at Huddersfield. His record there was good, so why did no-one take him on?


A quote from this Independent article ...

Out of football Jackson worked as an agent and turned down three management jobs - while in the mean time Huddersfield simply fell apart.


Further in the article, Jackson says ...

I had three and a half years out of the game and I turned down various jobs because they didn't feel right.

If I'm a child that means you're a pedophile, and I'll be damned if I'm going stand here and take this from a pervert.

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